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Gunner
11-10-2004, 10:50 AM
Right,

First off, this phone is not yet available on Orange 3G but should be launching in the near future. As Orange 3G (for handsets) has not yet launched, changes may still take place before it is publicly available.

The Sony Ericsson Z1010 is not a small phone - but then you all knew that. It is, however, a well constructed and easy to use handset, and the size and weight of the handset are very acceptable. If you like phones the size of your little toe then you wont like this - but if you've owned a smartphone then the chances are you'll like the form factor.

Orange's Z1010 is all grey and silver (not the red version) and has a single Orange logo on the inside of the phone. Orange are, generally, pretty respectful with their phone branding, and the Z1010 is no exception. On the outside is a 4-scale monochrome screen, giving you everything from battery life and signal to who's calling, missed calls, and text messages. Starting from the left hand side there's volume controls and a Memory Stick Duo™ slot, then around to the front is a large infra-red panel and all the usual connection holes for charging et al. Around to the right is a USB mini connector, the Camera button, and the headphone connector. To look at it side by side with my NEC e606, you'd think 19 years had passed, not 19 months.

Opening and closing the phone is a joy (no, really!). The solid construction can be felt in the smooth click as the screen locks into place. Revealed is a large vibrant 65k colour screen. I was actually supprised this wasn't a 200+k colour screen given its clarity. The buttons on the phone are firm and reassuring to press, and the large keypad is extremely nice to use. Gone is the joystick found in so many SE's, replaced with a nice central menu/select button, surrounded by a responsive quad-directional navigation button. Two softkeys near the screen make for easy navigation, whilst "back up" and "cancel" keys make for a swift exit from any menu or application. Separate Video Calling and Orange World keys, along with the camera key on the side, mean you can access a great deal of content without going near the main menu at all.

The Main Menu, when accessed via the central menu button, starts as on most SE's with the Messages section highlighted. Other sections are: Media Album, Orange World, Entertainment, Camera, Video Call, Connectivity, Address book, Calls, Settings, Organiser and Media Player.

All options and applications are incredibly responsive and instantaneous, unlike too many other SE's, and you can instantly access every feature the phone has without so much of a sniff of a manual. Always nice - especially as my first Z1010 (which was replaced today, it just didn't work... a slight worry, and possibly why Orange 3G hasn't launched it yet?) didn't come with one!

MP3 playback on the phones speaker is supprisingly good, and with the stereo headphones supplied you can comfortably listen to your favourite songs. The song name is neatly displayed on the outside screen when the phone is closed. The Memory Stick Duo™, of which I now have two, is only 32MB, but I can see myself buying a much heftier sized one in the near future. MP3's set as ringtones are great fun, and downloaded MIDIs also work perfectly. Just as with my T610, I was impressed by how well the Z1010 plays back MIDI.

Yes, you heard me right! Downloaded MIDIs! Unlike 3G phones from Three UK, Orange 3G (and the Z1010) has full open Internet access. Browse WAP or small websites all through the built-in browser, or surf wirelessly at 3G speeds on your laptop or PDA - without additional software (such as the software that hinders the Orange 3G datacard - If you have one, you'll know what I mean). Finally you can get broadband speeds on the move, without needing extra kit. It's as simple as pairing and dialling *99# with Dial-Up Networking!

I've not tried video calling yet, but it's really nothing special anyway. I am told, however, that video calling is already xnet! That means I can video call people on Three et al. We'll see ;) I'll let you know more with regards to quality when I find someone to call.

The 3G-2G handover seems fine. Unlike Three, Orange wont drop calls. I've experienced the handover several times now, and it's absolutely spot on. Other than from the phone display, there was no other indication that the change had happened. Bravo! Quality of service is going to be Orange's biggest plus against Three, who offer cheapness but not much else! Orange 3G signal is much better here than Three's ever was - and Three's transmitter is actually closer...

There are niggles, of course. When the phone is on my desk near the monitor, signal on Orange has always been poor. However, the Z1010 tries overly hard to remain on 3G signal. A couple of times now this has caused it to stay on 3G with 0-1 bars (of 5) when it could be on 2G with 1-2 bars. I suspect this is mostly due to having poor 2G and 3G signal in this particular position, rather than something that will affect many people generally. The other thing is 3G speed; if you've only got about 1 bar of 3G signal, the lag on 3G data is pretty bad. Slows the connection right down under GPRS speeds. However, with decent 3G signal the speed is brilliant. Speedtest results gave over 300kbps down and over 50kbps up, and that was with 1-2 bars 3G signal.

All that's left to say, for the moment, is that I'm totally overwhelmed. Yes 3G phones need to get dramatically smaller, but the functionality has finally arrived. There are bound to be teething problems, but the sheer length of testing now from networks like Orange and Vodafone will have ironed out almost all problems. If you're lucky enough to see one of these handsets between now and Christmas (Orange will only sell about 40,000 3G handsets altogether this year, including the totally unexciting LG8150), you'll definitely want one.

Orange, you've taken a long time, but it was worth the wait.

You can learn more about 3G from Orange here: http://www.orange.co.uk/services/3G/

This review may not be replicated or reproduced in part or full without prior permission. ben@cbfmail.com

hotphil
11-10-2004, 11:22 AM
Excellent little review!

One thing to add - I had the opportunity of trying a video call from an Orange Z1010 to a 3 handset. Worked on second connection attempt and was as good as an Orange-to-Orange 3G video call.

agent O
11-10-2004, 05:46 PM
i've done a videocall form orange to 3 in a 3point store and it worked fine.
i do like my z1010 :)

MJH
12-10-2004, 09:52 AM
Nice review and making me seriously consider changing my pre-ordered 8150 back to a Z1010.

Is there a trialist out there that has an LG so we unlucky people can compare and contrast?

It'd be helpful.

Gunner
12-10-2004, 10:26 AM
LoL I just downloaded three South Park best-bits clips, about 1min each. They cost about 50p. Sooo funny! BEEFCAKE! I hope Orange World expands rapidly between now and launch.

The LG... you've seen them on Three... no different really. Still no Bluetooth. A good phone, nothing to scream about though. Go and play with a U81** in CPW (etc) and see if it's for you.

Sitefinder (http://www.sitefinder.radio.gov.uk/) has loads of Orange UMTS cells around my area now, added on to the existing GSM ones. They're not all in service yet unfortunately, but luckily the one nearest my house is :D Still, nice to know Orange plan good coverage down here. For example, I found 4 Orange UMTS cells, and two Three UK UMTS cells. No other networks have 3G coverage here... it's not very built up.

Confucious
12-10-2004, 04:29 PM
Nice review, thanks.

Two things tho:
1) have you tried an Orange USIM in a 3 phone?
2) You say that you just dial *99# to connect to 3G - this is the normal code for GPRS so can you just confirm that it uses the same code so there is no way of dialling GPRS? I suppose with the seamless swapover there should be no need but it would be nice yto have the choice.

Thanks.

Gunner
12-10-2004, 04:39 PM
Hey, np.

1) I haven't tried putting my shiney Orange 3G USIM into my not-so-shiney NEC e606. I'm of the understanding that Three UK phones are locked to Three anyway... maybe I'll give it a go when I'm feeling brave - though you never know what those e606's will do!

(come to think of it, since I got sent my second USIM (nothing wrong with first, turned out to be a dead/blocked/dummy handset not dodgy USIM) I haven't used it in anything else - just incase. First USIM was fine in 2G handsets too though).

2) In 2.5G mode the connection goes to GPRS as normal. When you're in 3G coverage and dial, the phone connects over 3G signal. I did a speedtest to confirm - it's deffo data over 3G. This would make sense - dialing separate codes when on 3G to 2G would be irritating!

I've not had as much experience with the data handover as I have with the voice handover. The phone seems to give up voice calls to 2G more readily than it'll give up data connections. From my understanding of it, data handovers require a momentary interruption of service (handled by the handset/datacard). Voice handover is seamless though.

ColinR
15-10-2004, 01:33 PM
2) (Additional) The *99# code for dialing up worked on my old 3 nec616 as well. (That actually connected to a server at 480K/sec according to the network connection balloon in XP. An ipconfig confirmed that I had been given an IP address, but there wasn't anyway to get on to the internet at large.) What speed does the Orange network run at? Is it capped lower than Three's (albeit infinitely more usable!!!)?

Gunner
15-10-2004, 02:19 PM
Three's network is as Oranges - 384kbps (or at least as far as I am aware). XP's detection is absolutely terrible! That's the maximum speed for the technology at the moment, but there are enhancements in the pipeline that mean we'll eventually get a few mbps.

Interesting to hear that *99# works on Three. I wonder if it's the same for all networks. Shame you couldn't run a speedtest on adslguide due to the lack of actual connectivity!

Still loving the Sony Ericsson Z1010. Coupled with Orange 3G's open data access I can confidently say it's the best 3G experience currently available in the UK. I'd imagine it's data counter is a lot more accurate than Orange's Datacard one too!

Only niggle I've had recently is that sometimes dialtones don't work in calls - ie when calling 150 and trying to select a numeric option. Solution was to hang up and redial. Battery life is working out at about 3 days, MP3 player is great, and the OS is still working fast and reliably. Now I just want to splash out on a bigger Duo card :D

agent O
15-10-2004, 07:04 PM
there is a microsoft known bug dating back to win95. with certain devices the speed shown is the speed of connection between the device and windows. not windows to remote connection. (best seen on win 95/98 using external USR 56k modem=115kbps!!!)

ColinR
15-10-2004, 11:54 PM
That is possible I suppose, but this is with XP (which is better at rating speed) on an ancient laptop that doesn't have USB2 (the only spec that has "480 somethings per second" in it!). Just one of those things I suppose. <shrugs>

Immaterial anyway, as you'll only get a handful of packets from the 3 DHCP servers anyway...unless you ping -t and enjoy seeing numbers scroll up the screen! :D

chrisbuk
21-10-2004, 07:54 AM
so by dialling *99# before i dial up number i can get high speed internet access when dialing up.

Confucious
21-10-2004, 08:00 AM
No *99# is instead of a dial up number. it connects to GPRS or 3g if it is enabled.

chrisbuk
21-10-2004, 08:20 AM
i got a 3G LG 8110 on Three-UK

Confucious
21-10-2004, 08:28 AM
Then the only access you have is to 3 UK's content which is accessed at 3G speeds anyway. This thread id for Orange which is not restricted by 3's walled garden.

orange3gdata
22-10-2004, 07:22 AM
Well it's the same network, etc, so there shouldn't be much difference, but how does the data access on the z1010 paired with a laptop compares to the 3g datacard?

Cheers,

O3G data

Gunner
22-10-2004, 09:20 AM
I'll need to carry out some more extensive testing before I can give you a full answer, but my first impressions are good.

Basically, you know how you dial up with *99# normally if you're connecting via a bluetooth or infra-red modem (your mobile phone)? Well it's all the ease of that, but on 3G! The phone seems to handle a lot of what the software must handle on the datacard - so no overheads :) Oh, and nothing sticking out the side of your laptop.

The best bit has to be the ability to place the phone wherever gives you the best signal. Good old bluetooth. It means you can purch your phone in one place and sit somewhere more comfortable.

I really need to take my laptop down the road and get driven past the cell site to see how it handles the data handover... so I'll keep you posted on that one.