Rotate the screen like the iPhone!

[munkimatt]

Add a touch of iPhone to your Nokia N95… This app uses the N95’s built-in level sensor to change the display lay-out from portrait to landscape and vice versa.

Check here to find out how!

http://n95blog.com/cool-app-rotateme-on-the-nokia-n95/

[Rusty!]

That will be cool :D

[munkimatt]

It'll get annoying after a bit, but for a gimmick I think it's OK.

[biggzy]

sounds good, but does n95 even have a level sensor? If it did wudnt it be being used already? Surely nokia wudav made it do this already

[Rusty!]

Watch the video, it clearly does :D

[timbo_baggins]

Add a touch of iPhone to your Nokia N95… This app uses the N95’s built-in level sensor to change the display lay-out from portrait to landscape and vice versa.

Check here to find out how!

http://n95blog.com/cool-app-rotateme-on-the-nokia-n95/

Funny man.

"What this app does is alternating the orientation from portrait to landscape with the press of a key. I had it in my old N80 and it was very useful. However, in N95 it is pretty useless, as you can do the same thing by sliding the keypad to the opposite way."

:D

[Rusty!]

That's how it worked on his old phone, in the video, no buttons are being pressed.

[timbo_baggins]

I have a hat marinading in readiness...

;-)

[bhwarrior]

The level sensor built in to the N95 is used for the camera. Take a vertical photo and you will find it is the right way up when you load it on your pc. Very handy and awfully nice of Nokia. ;)

[munkimatt]

I have a hat marinading in readiness...

;-)

Of course you realise that if this comes true, we all want a video on YouTube of you eating a hat?

[biggzy]

Of course you realise that if this comes true, we all want a video on YouTube of you eating a hat?

im so hoping its true now, that will make a great video im sure

[munkimatt]

And if it's not true... I'll eat a hat.

On a side note... what's happened to the avatars? anyone know?

[SirGbolalot]

I was wondering that aswell, can you guys add infractions to people now aswell? waiting for the spammers to come so i can test it.

[munkimatt]

Can't imagine that's supposed to be there...

[biggzy]

And if it's not true... I'll eat a hat.

On a side note... what's happened to the avatars? anyone know?

lol i didnt even notice avatars had gone

[munkimatt]

lol i didnt even notice avatars had gone

I miss my pretty face... :(

[Mithent]

It's worth trying out the MovingBall demo from this page:
http://research.nokia.com/projects/activity_monitor

You don't need to install the SDK, just the 6kb demo. I knew the N95 could detect orientation, but I didn't know it had a 3D accelerometer.. I'm impressed. It immediately makes me think of those handheld games where you have to move a ball around a maze.

[TWD-Tony]

I don't *Think* MovingBall uses the same technology - doesn't it use the N95's camera to 'sense' movement?

[lightbulb]

I don't *Think* MovingBall uses the same technology - doesn't it use the N95's camera to 'sense' movement?

Try it, the lens cover of the camera can be shut and it works. It uses the in built accelerometer which detects movement along x, y and z axes. Also have a gander at the Nokia wiki for the sensor and links within for more info :)

http://wiki.forum.nokia.com/index.php/N95_sensor

[timbo_baggins]

Of course you realise that if this comes true, we all want a video on YouTube of you eating a hat?

But of course. I'll just top up the marinade with some scotch ...

[timbo_baggins]

I miss my pretty face... :(

Your badly-lit action shot is still visible here Matt ...:cool: ;)

[timbo_baggins]

im so hoping its true now, that will make a great video im sure

Wouldn't be the first time!

[munkimatt]

Your badly-lit action shot is still visible here Matt ...:cool: ;)

It has returned, so I can now bask in my own beauty.

Everyone knows I'm being sarcastic don't they? :D

[lightbulb]

I posted a link up at AAS so thought might as well let you all have a look at this basic game I made* that uses the accelerometer. You have to guide the ball through the maze to get the cheese!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJ3Ady2rz3o

*I don't know any C++ so I had to use a whiteboard pen instead!

[SamGoff]

RotateMe wont install for me. Something about Certificate....:confused:

[Rusty!]

Don't worry, that's not the N95 version anyway, it's not out yet.

[Bad Horsey]

Good lord - that moving ball thing has been the scientific breakthrough of the afternoon, demoing it in the office has brought yelps of disbelief.

I wonder why the N95 has a motion sensor? I mean, it's not really used in the current application set.

Lets see some Wii-influenced games now!

[ebony.branch]

I have the same problem with certificates - it won't let me install the moving ball thingee. Any suggestion?

[bhwarrior]

I wonder why the N95 has a motion sensor? I mean, it's not really used in the current application set.


The phone does use the motion sensor. It uses it for the camera, I think I mentioned that on some other thread.

[munkimatt]

I have the same problem with certificates - it won't let me install the moving ball thingee. Any suggestion?

Try changing the dates on the phone. Knock is back a few months. You can put it back to the proper date afterwards.

[ez2remember]

I've just installed moving ball. I'm amazed... All we need now is some real games to utilise it.

[davy4475]

were do i get the moving ball game or the rotate me app

[ebony.branch]

Try changing the dates on the phone. Knock is back a few months. You can put it back to the proper date afterwards.

I tried that and it still didn't work, so I changed the date back to this month and tried again and it finally decided to install this time! And after all that effort it's quite a fun little pointless application!

[Rusty!]

were do i get the moving ball game or the rotate me app
Rotate me isn't out yet, Moving Ball is here: http://research.nokia.com/files/MovingBall_Example.sisx

[lightbulb]

Looks like Dr Jukka of drjukka.com has created or got hold of an inclinometer app that makes use of the acceleromter. Available from Mosh (http://mosh.nokia.com/content/3E1BD59369462687E040050AEE043609)

[Bad Horsey]

The phone does use the motion sensor. It uses it for the camera, I think I mentioned that on some other thread.

Sorry - what I meant to say is that it's not a publicised feature.

[Peter321]

Rotate me isn't out yet, Moving Ball is here: http://research.nokia.com/files/MovingBall_Example.sisx

I just noticed you can get the beta now if you donate.

http://www.bysamir.fr/rotateme/

I did, and am now enjoying auto-rotation, iPhone Style, on my N95

Just note that the app. is unsigned so you need to sign it yourself.

[munkimatt]

I just noticed you can get the beta now if you donate.

http://www.bysamir.fr/rotateme/

I did, and am now enjoying auto-rotation, iPhone Style, on my N95

Just note that the app. is unsigned so you need to sign it yourself.

How well does it work Peter?

[DeniseR]

Will it work on the N95 8gb

[munkimatt]

Will it work on the N95 8gb

I can't think of any reason why not, the accel...acceler... shakey thing is still in there. I was playing with the moving ball app yesterday.

[Peter321]

How well does it work Peter?

Very well actually.

Could be a bit more sensitive (when you hold the phone in a less than 45 degree angle in front of you it doesn't register when you rotate) You need to hold it more upright.

But this is the first beta, and apart from the sensitivity it's working perfectly.

REALLY useful and I urge anyone interested to donate and support the developer - this will be a must have app.

[SmileyWalsh]

How well does it work Peter?

Matt,

How did you download this after you donated?
Did you recieve an email?
I'd really like to test this out as it appears really useful, so long as it's not to heavy going on the processing speeds...

The website http://www.bysamir.fr/rotateme/ quotes that:

'All donators will receive all new beta releases during this month until the public release.'

and;

'An unsigned version of rotateMe 2.0 will be out toward the end of November.'

Not that you'll recieve it immediately.

Did you?

Thanks,
Chris

Gutted that I won't be the owner of an 8gb N95 for some time, yet strangely happy...

[munkimatt]

I've not done it mate, Peter did.

[Spooks121]

Donated by PayPal @ 7:40pm GMT
Had a receipt for payment email from PayPal @ 7:42pm GMT
RotateMe_2_0_beta1_unsigned.sis was in my inbox @ 7:45pm GMT

[SmileyWalsh]

I just noticed you can get the beta now if you donate.

http://www.bysamir.fr/rotateme/

I did, and am now enjoying auto-rotation, iPhone Style, on my N95

Just note that the app. is unsigned so you need to sign it yourself.

Sorry Matt,
I meant that to be aimed in Peter's direction.

- update -
I have recieved an e-mail instructing me to sign the unsigned application (using a drawn-out process of registering a non-public domain email address!) at symbiansigned.com, then following a long set of progamming instructions...
It all looks like a pain in the proverbial.

Do you have experience of this as I can't open the .exe file (DevCertRequest_30_10_2006_v2.0.exe ) which I have downloaded directly from the link in the tutorial? I'm frustated already!

Thanks!

[munkimatt]

How much did you donate?

[Spooks121]

I gave 10.00 EUR
A good price for this app IMHO

[SmileyWalsh]

I only donated €1 - being a poor(ish) postgrad student - does that mean I'll get a version that I can't install!!!

Did anyone have to 'join' symbiansigned.com using a 'non-publicly available email domain' name before you downloaded the 'DevCertRequest tool'?

If so where can a obtain one? I only use Yahoo and Hotmail.

Thanks guys!

[biggzy]

iv got it also, works great, only uses up 100kb of ram, v nice
vid of my n95 in action with the app.... http://www.savefile.com/files/1176857

[ender4000]

I can't install the Magic Ball thing! I'm getting the same certificate problems, I've tried changing the date to a range of different dates but alas still won't work.

What date did you set your phone to that worked?

[munkimatt]

Have you got onlione certificate check turned off?

[munkimatt]

Woah!!! The N82 supports auto screen rotate straight out of the box.

[biggzy]

Woah!!! The N82 supports auto screen rotate straight out of the box.

yeh just seen that myself mat, v nice eh

[munkimatt]

That's sweet. Got the app installed on my N95 now. It's all well and good... but it's a bit gimmicky isn't it?

[biggzy]

That's sweet. Got the app installed on my N95 now. It's all well and good... but it's a bit gimmicky isn't it?

lol i like it, i use it wen using browser coz im sick of pressing options>rotate screen

[ebony.branch]

Have you got onlione certificate check turned off?

Erm.....eh? Does that answer your question? How do I do that?

[ramjett18]

That's sweet. Got the app installed on my N95 now. It's all well and good... but it's a bit gimmicky isn't it?

Hi I followed the instructions given for the signing, however everytime I try to click on the autosign.bat to create the signed programme nothing happens. Any help you can give me with this would be greatly appreciated.:(

[biggzy]

Hi I followed the instructions given for the signing, however everytime I try to click on the autosign.bat to create the signed programme nothing happens. Any help you can give me with this would be greatly appreciated.:(

have u got ur cert from online at symbian signed?

[ramjett18]

have u got ur cert from online at symbian signed? if so send it to me (just the cert not the app) biggzyn80@googlemail.com and ill sign it for u and send it back

Thanks biggzy, it's on it's way.

[Rusty!]

but it's a bit gimmicky isn't it?
Well what were you expecting? :laugh:

[SmileyWalsh]

have u got ur cert from online at symbian signed? if so send it to me (just the cert not the app) biggzyn80@googlemail.com and ill sign it for u and send it back

Hi Biggzy,
A big ask I know: but if you don't ask...
Is there any chance that you would be able to obtain the 'DevCert' from Symbian Signed for me and sign it?

I can't register with Symbian Signed due to them not accepting Hotmail/Yahoo addresses and would probably mess it up anyway...

If so let me know and I'll send you the relevant IMEI number and attach the sultan.key that I recieved from Samir Oueldi.

I'd really appreciate the help, from anyone that could lend a hand.:confused:

Thanks.

smileywalshman@hotmail.com

[biggzy]

Hi Biggzy,
A big ask I know: but if you don't ask...
Is there any chance that you would be able to obtain the 'DevCert' from Symbian Signed for me and sign it?

I can't register with Symbian Signed due to them not accepting Hotmail/Yahoo addresses and would probably mess it up anyway...

If so let me know and I'll send you the relevant IMEI number and attach the sultan.key that I recieved from Samir Oueldi.

I'd really appreciate the help, from anyone that could lend a hand.:confused:

Thanks.

smileywalshman@hotmail.com

check ur email :o)

[Rusty!]

Tell you what, leaving this running is really harsh on the battery life :laugh:

[skalra63]

Did anyone else really want him to turn the screen clockwise as well? Does it work in all direction?

[SmileyWalsh]

Thanks Biggzy! Installed without a hitch.
Lovely! :D

I agree with an earlier post - at the moment, the handset has to be held near to 90 (in the z-axis?) for it to register the movement. I'm sure this will be adjusted in later releases.
Other than that, the app. seems good. Can't judge battery life effects yet - though as it's not doing anything while the handset is locked I assume it can't consume much power..

[davy4475]

does anyone fancy signing the app for me lol

[biggzy]

does anyone fancy signing the app for me lol

send me ur imei

[davy4475]

thanks mate, its on the way

[biggzy]

thanks mate, its on the way

lol check mail, signed, sealed and delivered

[davy4475]

and working. top man biggzy

[biggzy]

and working. top man biggzy

glad to help :D

[bigbadnewill]

I don't think it's gimikey (SP), i think it's massively useful. I always used to use rotate me on my N80, the screen is so much nicer widescreen for movies, and internet browsing.

I agree about the slight problem with the phone being vertical to get it to register a movement, but i quite like flicking my phone to make it register, kinda feels like i'm doing something :D

Loving this program, it's genius!

[biggzy]

a new version of rotame me (beta v2) gets sent out today (10th)
the changes are as follows:

Auto-Startup (it works very well) ..
Reduction in the consumption of the battery ..
Judgment of the rotation during a call ..
A hotkey to enable / disable auto-rotation..

[bigbadnewill]

wahoo!!! will look forward to it! Beta1 works great so far for me. But, I only got my phone today, and have played all day, so no possibility of stating battery consumption for me

[biggzy]

wahoo!!! will look forward to it! Beta1 works great so far for me. But, I only got my phone today, and have played all day, so no possibility of stating battery consumption for me

i havnt noticed any change in battery life as of yet, some ppl claim to have tho, maybe its just me lol, anyway yes v2 shud be good :D

[SmileyWalsh]

a new version of rotame me (beta v2) gets sent out today (10th)
the changes are as follows:

Auto-Startup (it works very well) ..
Reduction in the consumption of the battery ..
Judgment of the rotation during a call ..
A hotkey to enable / disable auto-rotation..

Will the Beta 2 version be sent automatically to those who have donated already?
Any idea?

[marlin026]

Eveyone slates the iPhone but alas you are trying to turn your Nokia's into one! How entertaining!

[munkimatt]

Not really. these people are taking one element of the iPhone. We're not replacing our camera with 2mpx flashless non video recording ones are we? Nor are we crippling our Bluetooth. Or creating a closed system so that the only way we can install an app is to hack the firmware. I could go on?

I've already uninstalled this. Drove me mad.

[SmileyWalsh]

Eveyone slates the iPhone but alas you are trying to turn your Nokia's into one! How entertaining!

I cannot think of any other feature which I would want from the iPhone, other than the touch-screen, however I can certainly live with using a regular keypad; and owning a superb unit (with a decent camera, Wi-fi, Bluetooth and GPS) instead of a fashion item which really doesn't cut the mustard...
Can't help but imagine I'd be disappointed with the iPhone.
I'd take an N95 (8Gb preferably!) over the iPhone, any day.

[marlin026]

I cannot think of any other feature which I would want from the iPhone, other than the touch-screen, however I can certainly live with using a regular keypad; and owning a superb unit (with a decent camera, Wi-fi, Bluetooth and GPS) instead of a fashion item which really doesn't cut the mustard...
Can't help but imagine I'd be disappointed with the iPhone.
I'd take an N95 (8Gb preferably!) over the iPhone, any day.

Yeah i can understand why you would want to beta test Nokia products for free!:lick:

[munkimatt]

Eh? :confused:

[inzimam]

Why is the iphone allowed on this forum anyway. It's not even 3g!

When I can post this from my phone (n95) standing in the middle of the countryside,while being logged into msn, listening to music,uploading a photo to flikr and downloading a large email attachment...who needs the iphone!

[iguanapunk]

Why is the iphone allowed on this forum anyway. It's not even 3g!

When I can post this from my phone (n95) standing in the middle of the countryside,while being logged into msn, listening to music,uploading a photo to flikr and downloading a large email attachment...who needs the iphone!

I thought people of the countryside hated gadgets?! If I were you i'd be appreciating the lush green grass and...flooding probably.

[biggzy]

any1 elso had the new beta sent to them tonite? rotate me beta v2 was ment to be sent tonite but iv not got it yet, ment to be sum bug fixes etc

[Dan Mumford]

How can I get it signed? it won't let me sign up because I have a public email! :rolleyes:

[biggzy]

How can I get it signed? it won't let me sign up because I have a public email! :rolleyes:
am of to sleep now tho

[stue]

how do you do all that?? can someone explain in english as i cant understand that video:(

[marlin026]

Yeah i can understand why you would want to beta test Nokia products for free!:lick:

what i mean is the n95 was not ready for launch and they released it knowing this so ultimatley you are using a beta version ! N95 8gb is the real version!

[Spooks121]

what i mean is the n95 was not ready for launch and they released it knowing this so ultimatley you are using a beta version ! N95 8gb is the real version!
Agreed.
It’s like Apples roll out of the under performing iPhone.
Everyone knows that the proper release "may" go some way to catch up on the N95’s lead. They will have to include features that come as standard on most mid priced phones nowadays.
The present “rushed/beta/crippled/trial/mid range” iPhone is just Apples small effort of dipping its feet in to Nokia’s very big pond. :)

[marlin026]

Agreed.
It’s like Apples roll out of the under performing iPhone.
Everyone knows that the proper release "may" go some way to catch up on the N95’s lead. They will have to include features that come as standard on most mid priced phones nowadays.
The present “rushed/beta/crippled/trial/mid range” iPhone is just Apples small effort of dipping its feet in to Nokia’s very big pond. :)

Less we forget Nokia's ROOTS!

What is known today as Nokia was established in 1865 as a wood-pulp mill by Knut Fredrik Idestam on the banks of the Tammerkoski rapids in the town of Tampere, in south-western Finland. The company was later relocated to Nokia by the Nokianvirta river, which had better resources for hydropower production. That's where the company also got its name that is still used today. The name of the Nokia originated from the river which flowed through the town. The river itself, Nokianvirta, was named after the old Finnish word originally meaning a dark, furry animal that was locally known as the nokia, or sable, later pine marten.

Finnish Rubber Works established its factories in the beginning of 20th century nearby and began using Nokia as its brand. Shortly after World War I Finnish Rubber Works acquired Nokia Wood Mills as well as Finnish Cable Works, a producer of telephone and telegraph cables. All these three companies were merged into the Nokia Corporation in 1967.


Nuf said!

[Cybercamel]

Trying to follow the instructions to sign the certificate but can't install the DervCertRequest tool, when I try and open it nothing happens! Any suggestions, what am I doing wrong?

[Spooks121]

blah blah blah blah

Nuf said!
And you’re above very informative but totally pointless and off topic spiel has what pray tell to do with the topic? :rolleyes:

Just because you found nothing wrong with my observations on the iPhone and probably agreed with them gives you no reason to totally ignore all of my post "and the thread topic" and only reply with a second rate history lesson of useless information. :D

I can only guess that you must be an aficionado of one or more of the following sites:
http://home.nycap.rr.com/useless
http://www.singlegrain.com/blog/301-useless-facts
http://www.amusingfacts.com :D

I think you would be far better reading the posting rules of the site though.
3G Forum Codes Of Conduct POSTING RULES

P6) Members are asked to keep threads on topic. If the trail of discussion diverts from its original subject, then start a new thread. A warning will be issued for a 1st offence with the possibility of a ban for a 2nd offence.

Hope this helps you. :p

[marlin026]

And you’re above very informative but totally pointless and off topic spiel has what pray tell to do with the topic? :rolleyes:

Just because you found nothing wrong with my observations on the iPhone and probably agreed with them gives you no reason to totally ignore all of my post "and the thread topic" and only reply with a second rate history lesson of useless information. :D

I can only guess that you must be an aficionado of one or more of the following sites:
http://home.nycap.rr.com/useless
http://www.singlegrain.com/blog/301-useless-facts
http://www.amusingfacts.com :D

I think you would be far better reading the posting rules of the site though.
3G Forum Codes Of Conduct POSTING RULES

P6) Members are asked to keep threads on topic. If the trail of discussion diverts from its original subject, then start a new thread. A warning will be issued for a 1st offence with the possibility of a ban for a 2nd offence.

Hope this helps you. :p

I didnt realise that i posted that response in this thread! Oh well silly me! Sorry Mr 30 odd posts. I will slap myself and cosider my self well and truly told off! :rolleyes: Thats all.

[munkimatt]

You're dismissing someone due to their post count?

Poor form sir. Poor form.

[smeeshum]

i have donated but still not recieved a link. How long have you all had to wait. I sell phones and would love to show this off. So people can see the N95 still has some tricks left up its sleeve.

[SmileyWalsh]

Just realised that the version I recieved a few days ago was the V2 app - silly me, waiting for a follow-up email advising me of the update! :p
Here's to the next update... more use of the N95's accelerometer please Nokia (or Samir...)!

[Spooks121]

I didnt realise that i posted that response in this thread! Oh well silly me! Sorry Mr 30 odd posts. I will slap myself and cosider my self well and truly told off! :rolleyes: Thats all.
If I posted nothing but rubbish and off topic posts my post count would be over 700 like some members on here, know what I mean @marlin026? ;)

Its quality and not quantity that counts on here, hence the reason my meagre 33 posts have gained me a better rep than your 749 ;)

Keep trying though and you will get better :D

[davy4475]

leave it alone and get back to the phones, lol

[SmileyWalsh]

i have donated but still not recieved a link. How long have you all had to wait. I sell phones and would love to show this off. So people can see the N95 still has some tricks left up its sleeve.

Didn't have to wait more than a few minutes as long as I can remember...
Maybe wait overnight before contacting him?

[FonzCam]

Trying to follow the instructions to sign the certificate but can't install the DervCertRequest tool, when I try and open it nothing happens! Any suggestions, what am I doing wrong?

I had the same problem with V2.0, it just won't install and 2.2 from symbiansigned.com doesn't have the private key option. You can grab a copy of 2.1 from http://developer.symbian.com/main/tools/devtools/distribute/ that should do the trick.