Lifeblog on N73 (3 Handset)

[NB2CREW]

Has anyone got a Nokia 73 on Three? I have tried to find Lifeblog on my handset after installing it on the pc but it's nowhere to be seen!

I called into the Three shop in Kingston-Upon-Thames today and one of the guys kindly called up a support helpline but even they could not find it! According to a booklet which came with the handset which says 'Additional applications' on it - Lifeblog can be found in the applications folder but it's nowhere to be seen.

Tried to install the version from my N70 but it wouldn't allow me to do so - maybe the OS is slightly different!!! Or maybe this is one of the phone companies stopping users from having access to a certain application. Anyone got any ideas?

Regards,

Kevin

[E616Vboy]

Has anyone got a Nokia 73 on Three? I have tried to find Lifeblog on my handset after installing it on the pc but it's nowhere to be seen!

I called into the Three shop in Kingston-Upon-Thames today and one of the guys kindly called up a support helpline but even they could not find it! According to a booklet which came with the handset which says 'Additional applications' on it - Lifeblog can be found in the applications folder but it's nowhere to be seen.

Tried to install the version from my N70 but it wouldn't allow me to do so - maybe the OS is slightly different!!! Or maybe this is one of the phone companies stopping users from having access to a certain application. Anyone got any ideas?

Regards,

Kevin

I'm not sure why lifeblog isnt on there (but I could be the 3 firmware), but the reason the version on your N70 will not work is that the N70 runs Symbian s60 Version 2 and the N73 runs Symbian s60 Version 3 - and the majority of the software for verson 2 isnt compatible wih version 3, although I'm not sure if this is the case the other way round (v3 not compatible with v2)

[NB2CREW]

You said exactly what I was thinking regarding the Lifeblog software - once again it seems that this is another crippled handset by one of the network companies - I believe there is the same problem with my Nokia N70 which is on Orange!

Why they do this is beyond me - it just adds problems to the end user and they end up with another problem with handsets coming back - just looses them revenue:cross-eye

The stupid thing is if you go and get their software taken off and put the generic software on it (and it works) you then invalidate your warranty:mad:
Have got a feeling that Three want us to use the Yahoo service that they are giving free instead - mind you you can then upload your photos to your Yahoo site - but then I am not sure if you end up paying for the privelidge!

It's a pain for me anyhow as I have to keep an old pc to do the things I can't do on my mac - like back up texts:devious:

[Mr.Gadget]

You said exactly what I was thinking regarding the Lifeblog software - once again it seems that this is another crippled handset by one of the network companies - I believe there is the same problem with my Nokia N70 which is on Orange!

Why they do this is beyond me - it just adds problems to the end user and they end up with another problem with handsets coming back - just looses them revenue:cross-eye

The stupid thing is if you go and get their software taken off and put the generic software on it (and it works) you then invalidate your warranty:mad:
Have got a feeling that Three want us to use the Yahoo service that they are giving free instead - mind you you can then upload your photos to your Yahoo site - but then I am not sure if you end up paying for the privelidge!

It's a pain for me anyhow as I have to keep an old pc to do the things I can't do on my mac - like back up texts:devious:


never had any problem with warranty - you forget about the middlemen and take it straight back to nokia, after all its their firmware so can can the warranty be void?

why dont people check the makers site before moaning amazes me these days. why is everybody so lazy?

Lifeblog for nokia n73 found in about 30 seconds - http://www.nokia.co.uk/nokia/0,,71751,00.html should also be on the CD that came with the phone and usually its supplied on the memory card too.

[NB2CREW]

why dont people check the makers site before moaning amazes me these days. why is everybody so lazy?

Lifeblog for nokia n73 found in about 30 seconds - http://www.nokia.co.uk/nokia/0,,71751,00.html should also be on the CD that came with the phone and usually its supplied on the memory card too.[/QUOTE]

Mate - I wish I was as clever as you & thank God I am not as quick to judge someone as being lazy!

Actually if you bothered to check the Nokia site (as I did before I posted earlier) you would find that you cannot download Lifeblog as a separate .sis program for the N73 as you can with some of the other handsets.

Also if you used Google as quick as you did earlier & researched a bit more (than you were quick to judge) you would have known that the N73 doesn't come with a supplied memory card!

Oh and I forgot to say - on the cd there is only an install for the .exe file as the handset software is already supposed to be on the handset! Without checking with my mate at Symbian I can only assume that the program is either not on this particular handset or it is being hidden from view by Three. I may assume you don't have a N73 on Three yourself?

Have a nice day!:rolleyes:

[Mr.Gadget]

Also if you used Google as quick as you did earlier & researched a bit more (than you were quick to judge) you would have known that the N73 doesn't come with a supplied memory card!



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crap phone then. even the humble 6280 comes with a 64 and the n80 a 128meg card.

[NB2CREW]

It would appear that depending which network you are on - you may or may not get a memory card with your phone. Usually they are only a token one so it isn't much to write home about!

The guy that gave me the phone very kindly included a 512mb card anyhow & when I saw there was only a tenner difference between that and a 1 gig card I offered the extra to upgrade & he kindly obliged!

Not sure if it is a crap phone actually - software is much the same as the N80 so there is no difference there - can I assume that you are not on Three then with your handset?:rolleyes:

[Mr.Gadget]

Not sure if it is a crap phone actually - software is much the same as the N80 so there is no difference there - can I assume that you are not on Three then with your handset?:rolleyes:


I am on Three, T Mobile and O2 at the moment....
software may be the same as the n80 but I dont think that the phone is anything like it.

[chaslam]

I dont quite understand how you can instantly brand it "Crap phone" because it doesnt come with a memory card. Could you explain?

Most phones dont acually come with a memory card, so I guess that means that most phones on the market are "Crap". The N73 is the first nokia 3G phone (apart from the 7600) that doesnt come supplied with a memory card, but I dont really see how that makes it a crap phone. It doesnt take a genius to work out that its way better then a 6280, with or without a memory card. Its simply nokia just trying to cut costs a little. Im sure they have researched it and found a simple enough reason for doing it, for instance people wont choose a nokia phone because it comes with a memory card, or that the majority of people who buy nokia phones would buy a memory card anyway.

Anyway, lets not get into the debate of N80 vs N73 as different phones suit different people.

Back on topic. NB2CREW, Acually three havent really branded the firmware much at all, and I thought it came with lifeblog, but now, looking through my 3 N73, I cant seem to find it either.

[chaslam]

NB2CREW, I have found the link to the nokia website where you can download lifeblog for youe N73 and PC.

http://www.nokia.co.uk/nokia/0,,71751,00.html

Hope this link helps :). Personally, I just upload all my images to flickr, and that fine for me.

[bavlondon]

Not sure if it is a crap phone actually - software is much the same as the N80 so there is no difference there

I dont know how you can come to that conclusion. ok so apart from the wi fi on the n80 the n73 pretty much out performs the n80.

- It has autofocus which the n80 lacks
- It has a camera lens cover
- It uses the new Li Po type battery which the n80 should really have

And if im not mistakes the n80 is probabaly the most buggiest phone Nokia have had to eal with in recent times not to mention that they still have not sorted the video recording.

[chaslam]

Its also only slightly bigger, and if you get it on three you get 512mb of data free anyway, so its better then having wifi!

Also, I think the screen is amazing and much nicer then the N80 in my opinion, just because of the size.

[Mr.Gadget]

I dont quite understand how you can instantly brand it "Crap phone" because it doesnt come with a memory card. Could you explain?

Most phones dont acually come with a memory card, so I guess that means that most phones on the market are "Crap". The N73 is the first nokia 3G phone (apart from the 7600) that doesnt come supplied with a memory card, but I dont really see how that makes it a crap phone. It doesnt take a genius to work out that its way better then a 6280, with or without a memory card. Its simply nokia just trying to cut costs a little. Im sure they have researched it and found a simple enough reason for doing it, for instance people wont choose a nokia phone because it comes with a memory card, or that the majority of people who buy nokia phones would buy a memory card anyway.

Anyway, lets not get into the debate of N80 vs N73 as different phones suit different people.

Back on topic. NB2CREW, Acually three havent really branded the firmware much at all, and I thought it came with lifeblog, but now, looking through my 3 N73, I cant seem to find it either.


I wondered why you were so quick to jump down my throat but I see you own one so it quite understandable.
Rather than it being Nokia that have removed the card I would have thought it more likely to be the network as vodagroan for one are well known for doing this.
as for the comment - 'I dont quite understand how you can instantly brand it "Crap phone" because it doesnt come with a memory card. Could you explain?' No I cant really but as I pointed out most top end phones do come with a card and the better the phone the bigger the card - or that has been my experiance in the past and low end phones are usually shipped with no card - hence my coment but its only my opinon anyway.


Anyway back to the point. If Lifeblog isnt on the phone or the memory card and its not on Nokais site then its tough look I suppose. Send the phone back if its so vital.

[NB2CREW]

I am speaking to my mate at Symbian & he tells me that the N80 is version 3 so it should be pretty much the same!

[Mr.Gadget]

NB2CREW, I have found the link to the nokia website where you can download lifeblog for youe N73 and PC.

http://www.nokia.co.uk/nokia/0,,71751,00.html

Hope this link helps :). Personally, I just upload all my images to flickr, and that fine for me.



I have just been told off for posting that link (check post 4 above) as if you check it doesnt have the softwrae for the phone. Come on now...stop slagging me off and then do the same yourself. this forum is rerally going downhill - you mods really need to start checking what you are saying first otherwise nobody is going to believe you.

[Mr.Gadget]

I am speaking to my mate at Symbian & he tells me that the N80 is version 3 so it should be pretty much the same!


I dont have many mates so I do it myself and I learn a lot more than asking other people all the time. :laugh:

http://www.forum.nokia.com/devices/matrix_s60_1.html

[chaslam]

NB2CREW, The N80 is exactly the same as the N73, apart from wifi. Its the phones firmwares that hold the bugs etc, which differ from phone to phone.

Mr.Gadget, If you have a problem with another member of this forum, do not discuss it publicly. If you would like to discuss it please email me at the address in my signature, and not in a thread about lifeblog on the N73.
Everyone is entittled to their opinion and we dont stop anyone expressing it. Fair enough you think the N80 is better, but you dont need to get so defensive about it. I just didnt understand how you came to the conclusion that the N73 was so crap because it didnt come with a memory card, thats all.

Its not the networks who dont request memory cards, its nokia that have just not supplied them. If you were to buy a N73 direct from nokia sim free, it still wouldnt come with a memory card, as its just what they have chosen. It seems a bit silly really seeing as each picture is about half a mb, but oh well.

[NB2CREW]

I dont know how you can come to that conclusion. ok so apart from the wi fi on the n80 the n73 pretty much out performs the n80.

- It has autofocus which the n80 lacks
- It has a camera lens cover
- It uses the new Li Po type battery which the n80 should really have

And if im not mistakes the n80 is probabaly the most buggiest phone Nokia have had to eal with in recent times not to mention that they still have not sorted the video recording.

Sorry mate if I offended you with my comment saying they were much the same - I didn't mean to offend anyone... nor am I into scoring any points against people. I didn't go for the N80 myself as I had read about it on the forum and decided that the N73 may actually be a better option for me:laugh:

[Mr.Gadget]

Its not the networks who dont request memory cards, its nokia that have just not supplied them. If you were to buy a N73 direct from nokia sim free, it still wouldnt come with a memory card, as its just what they have chosen. It seems a bit silly really seeing as each picture is about half a mb, but oh well.


I think you are incorrect on that point. Its the networks who get what they ask for. Not sure what phone it was but quite a recent one and all others came witha 64meg card but Vodagrone only had 32meg. Are you saying this was Nokia's decision and not Vodagroan?

[Mr.Gadget]

and decided that the N73 may actually be a better option for me:laugh:


and now you are probably wishing you hadnt as I bet its full of the usual bugs.
One day Nokia will realise it makes sense to do a bit more testing before they release their phones. Perhaps when Moto knock them off the top they might sit up and think but as long as people are buying them they wont do anything and its us the consumers that suffer - but whats new there...

[NB2CREW]

I dont have many mates so I do it myself and I learn a lot more than asking other people all the time. :laugh:

http://www.forum.nokia.com/devices/matrix_s60_1.html


Mate - if you were a bit less agressive with your answers and not so righteous - you just may develop a few more relationships with people and end up with more friends:rolleyes:

Let's not get into a slagging match here - these forums are here to help one another and HELP people. This way we can increase our knowledge; remember " It's nice to be important but it's more important to be nice" -

Peace to you:D

[NB2CREW]

and now you are probably wishing you hadnt as I bet its full of the usual bugs.
One day Nokia will realise it makes sense to do a bit more testing before they release their phones. Perhaps when Moto knock them off the top they might sit up and think but as long as people are buying them they wont do anything and its us the consumers that suffer - but whats new there...


Still got a Motorolla A 1000 sitting in a drawer not doing much - never really happy with it - but then it is just my opinion!

[chaslam]

No its definately nokia that are not supplying memory cards with the N73, in the UK anyway.

I recently read a news article about it that its the first 3G phone not to be supplied with a memory card by nokia. Its a well known fact that memory cards are not being supplied with the phone, and I take it that if the networks wish to have a memory card supplied, they must pay extra (like a network has done in australia, cant remember which, but comes with a 512mb card over there on a certain network).

[Spud1]

wow interesting thread here :)

Mr gadget..really how can you brand a phone as crap because of it's bundle...in my personal opinion it is a superior phone to the N80 - as a phone. Much better battery life, better camera (both in terms of lens, quality and [even tho it doenst really matter] megapixels). It's lighter than the N80, thinnner, isn't a slider so won't wear out in 6 months..Really the only reason to buy an N80 over the N73 is if you *need* wifi on your mobile - which a tiny number of people do. most people will see it as very cool and may even buy the phone as a result - but I bet that 90% of users will only use it to play with for a while and then forget about it, or just use it for the sake of it - not for any real need. On the subject of bugs yes the N73 and N80 are both using series 60 rev 3 - but with different firmware versions customised for each phone - so they will have differing numbers of bugs. You can't compare phone to phone - you need to compare firmware to firmware...

Anyway sorry for bringing up the argument, I just think its retarded to compare phones just because of their package...that has nothing to do with the phone itself.

Anyway just to confirm I have an N73 on three, and there was no memory card, and I cannot find lifeblog either..it probably causes problems with the stupid branding that three place on the N73 (ie the advert bar on the standby). I am seeing a growing trend with this these days - providers remove phone features because they break the phone when used with their own branding.

This was actually why i returned my 6280 to orange - they had removed active standby from their latest firmware for all series 40 rev3 phones, because it was incompatible with their custom firmware! Thats a pretty major feature of the new series 40 phones too..

[NB2CREW]

Funny isn't it Spud1 that I got accused of jumping down someone's throat quickly because I answered a post and yet I was accused of being lazy and moaning!:laugh:

As much as I like a particular product - if there is something bad about it I am prepared to discuss the positive as well as negative aspect of a brand!

After all I really liked the e61 I had on three before but rejected it because there were negatives about it (in my opinion). It didn't stop me from liking it in principle. I found the wi-fi fun and cool to use but as I was getting the phone because I was interested in the phone (I already have a business phone with Orange) - I decided if I really wanted wi-fi - I could buy a new Apple Mac Book for £750 rather than pay £400 on a contract for a phone that I found fun.

If I am honest I like the Symbian OS which probably goes back to my old Psion days when I used to Beta test products for the company. Why Psion stopped making Palmtops I shall never know - No Blackberry or e61 will ever take their place IMHO.

Interesting enough - if one want's a 128mb card you can pick one up on Ebay for £6.89! I can spend nearly that on a magazine so it wouldn't really bother me or stop me going out and buying one myself!!

I agree it is a shame that providers have to cripple the phones with their own little add on programs which also do away with some of the functionality of a phone! But usually it is because they have a hidden agenda in some way:confused:

[fox]

My N73 was bought SIM free and lifeblog was on there. There's actually no way to uninstall it, I would have preferred to have had the extra space by not having it on there as I personally find it useless.

[karafanga]

Intresting thread but not much headway with this problem. three have pulled the lifeblog .sis software for reasons unknown but probably so they can make money from the yahoo upload service as formentioned. I've emailed chris lindholm who invented lifeblog and he is going to contact Nokia to do address the download site problem. Meanwhile if there is anyone with a N73 with lifeblog installed (and .sis file) can you see if you can copy it and email us deprived three n73 owners!

J

[karafanga]

Hi guys,

the solution for lack of lifeblog on three N73 phones is download the N80 version from the nokia website.. The innards are so similar it actually works. I consulted the guys at nokia and even they were not aware of this!

Have fun, its a great application

Jas

[DOC_G]

I have an N73 on 3 and when I tried to use Lifeblog on my pc it said it was not installed on my phone. So I downloaded the phone version of lifeblog from the nokia site and tried to install it whereupon I was greeted with a message informing me that it would not install as it was already on the phone!!!!?

Any ideas?

cheers

DOC_G

[karafanga]

download the n80 version and install using nokia application manager, get the phone to accept anyway if the message pops up and it should install, it might require a couple of times but it does work!

Best regards

J

[DOC_G]

thank you ,will try as you suggest and let you know how I get on :)

[Iyanden]

Just to let you know if you take out a £35 pcm contract on Voda'groan' (?) in CPW stores you get a free 512mb memory card.

It's CPW branded so I bet it's a PoS but still...

[Border Reiver]

download the n80 version and install using nokia application manager, get the phone to accept anyway if the message pops up and it should install, it might require a couple of times but it does work!
After reading this the other day, I tried it - and it worked first time!

[DOC_G]

Many thanks Karafanga and all the others:) , Lifeblog is now working perfectly for me :)

respect and best regards folks :)

[Wombot]

I carried out some extensive investigating recently and discovered that Nokia do supply the N73 with the Lifeblog handset software on the memory card, which is also included in the package. However, 3Mobile do not provide customers with the said data card thereby preventing customers from being able to use Lifeblog on their handsets. One cannot download the software for the handset anywhere on the Internet, it is not hidden anywhere inside the handset and I can confirm that it is not included on the CD that comes with the phone package. The good news is that the software is available for download on the Nokia website for the N80 and I can confirm that (having installed the N80 software on my N73 handset) it works and I now have Lifeblog up and running again! Hoorah!

[DOC_G]

YUp the N80 version works fine on the N73 however i have one problem with the lifeblog software, when I transfer videos or pics to my phone from my pc lifeblog insists on adding them to its database on the phone and then transferring them to the lifeblog datastore on my pc. If i delete the relevant entries from the database on the phone the files are also deleted so i lose my vids and desktops. Is there a way of setting lifeblog to ignore certain files?

cheers

DOC_G