View Full Version : Vodafone SonyEricsson V800 wins top 3G handset
The Vodafone exclusive SonyEricsson V800 clamshell has been awarded the top 3G phone title at the 3GSM conference this week.
Full details here: http://www.3g.co.uk/PR/Feb2005/1057.htm
Gunner
19-02-2005, 01:32 PM
Now that doesn't surprise me. After all the NEC, LG and Motorola incarnations we've seen, this one really does have class. Sony Ericsson have taken a little while to get off the mark, but you can see in the Z1010 the potential they have in the 3G arena (when the networks don't ruin the software!).
It is surprising however that the top 3G phone isn't available on the UK's premiere 3G network! But then everyone knew Vodafone's handset range would make a splash.
99901
19-02-2005, 11:03 PM
its about time we some quality handsets
Taster
21-02-2005, 09:48 AM
Interesting that 3GSM did not have a 3G handset award last year or the year before .
where was SE then .... still harping on about the z1010
Hoot .
they would also win the award for slowest 3G fone release
but then what about NOK , now they are really slow .
99901
21-02-2005, 10:19 AM
Interesting that 3GSM did not have a 3G handset award last year or the year before .
where was SE then .... still harping on about the z1010
Hoot .
they would also win the award for slowest 3G fone release
but then what about NOK , now they are really slow .
Have you got any evidence to back up you claim about NOK
Taster
21-02-2005, 11:59 AM
reply ,
yeah , where is their video phone ?
when was that launched .
dont tell me about the 7610 with the static camera on the wrong side .
99901
21-02-2005, 01:51 PM
did you mean Nokia when you said NOK.
Gunner
21-02-2005, 01:59 PM
Yes, and he means 7600, not 7610. Oh well :P
Best ignored from now on I think.
99901
21-02-2005, 02:04 PM
I agree the guy is very mad.
Taster
21-02-2005, 02:31 PM
whats your problem ?
latecomer to 3G handset market wins award straight off the bat . and there was no such an award last year .
Can you not see through that ?
Taster
21-02-2005, 03:58 PM
jon3g ----- visionary
hoot hoot
Gunner
21-02-2005, 05:40 PM
latecomer to 3G handset market wins award straight off the bat . and there was no such an award last year .
See through it? Why, it makes NEC look terrible! They've had the longest to build up their handset portfolio, yet it has taken Sony Ericsson just two handsets to land it winner. Motorola must have been very disappointed given their 3G efforts, but surely you can see why the V800 is superior to anything in NEC's current lineup?
Now Nokia have the 6680 and SE have the v600 lined up for launch this year. Real choice is coming and its only natural that big electronics companies like the two mentioned above have concentrated their efforts on proven GSM technology until a decent number of 3G networks became active.
I suspect we have been quite well off in terms of handset choice considering there has been only one (poorly received) 3G network until very recently. More operators will make 2005 the year when the technology moves from being esoteric to mainstream.
Taster
22-02-2005, 09:39 AM
Total Rubbish ,
Neither 6680 and SE have the v600 are launched yet , still in marketing and test
All OEMs and mobile manufacturers have made huge investments in develop0ment of 3G network elements and terminals .
Only some of these efforts have been rewarded with sales and contracts .
If it was not for 3 pushing so hard the other networks would not have launched at all .
VF is quite happy not to deliver what customers want and milk the GSM cow as status quo
Taster
22-02-2005, 09:44 AM
See through it? Why, it makes NEC look terrible! They've had the longest to build up their handset portfolio, yet it has taken Sony Ericsson just two handsets to land it winner. Motorola must have been very disappointed given their 3G efforts, but surely you can see why the V800 is superior to anything in NEC's current lineup?
Rubbish ,
All manufacturers have had the same length of time to build their handsets .
NEC have sold out of several models .
Motorola must be disappointed with their rewards alringht .
SE have just two models . One the z1010 appears to have quite a history of propeganda and little availability . the V800 is a late comer and has been bought up by VF to support its late rollout.
Developing a product for a stabilised network that has already been done is easy .
I suppose that SE can make great cheese sandwiches too with just plain cheese and bread . Do they make the best cheese sandwichwes too ??
"Developing a product for a stabilised network that has already been done is easy ."
Risking your company's products on one that is'nt stable does'nt help build a reputation for relaibility either.
Development apperas to be happening as the networks expand, as expected.
Taster
22-02-2005, 10:32 AM
3GSU ---- strategist .
"lets not develop product mobile because the network is not ready "
"lets wait until somebody else does it first"
"we cant test our handset because we dont have a network "
Absolute horse dung from our scottish muck raker
There are leaders and there are followers
If 3GSU was right innovation would never happen and we would still be in the dark ages .... like him .
The above response justifies why that particular contributer is on my 'ignore list'.
Oh Well!
Taster
22-02-2005, 11:15 AM
Q.e.d
:-)
Taster
22-02-2005, 11:39 AM
Yes thats right folks :
latecomer to 3G handset market wins award straight off the bat . and there was no such an award last year .
Can you not see through that ?
Gunner
22-02-2005, 11:56 AM
Yes! I can see perfectly clearly!
At the time of giving the award, the Sony Ericsson V800 was the best 3G handset available. Better than products from NEC, Nokia, Motorola, Sharp, Samsung and others.
It's undisputable. 3GSM gave the award for pete's sake, not Readers Wives! I suppose the Samsung D500 wasn't deserving of best handset award now either? Should we be trying to see though that?
There would have been no point awarding 'best 3G handset' last year - the state of the handsets being pumped out was more like a giant beta test.
Taster
22-02-2005, 12:16 PM
Well I think that that is just a ridiculous statement .
1. Best is a relative concept .
2. giving it the "Best" award three months after launch is marketing
3. why did they not give the 2004 award based on the previous year .
4. It is only February 2005 ---- 10 months to go
V800 wont last the year
99901
22-02-2005, 12:24 PM
yes your right SE will bring better handsets out over the coming year.
Taster
What phone do u have and what network are u with
Taster
22-02-2005, 12:49 PM
jon3g
sorry I am stuck in a monkey right now
he cant work out his video call stand for his 6630
so I am taking advantage of him in his distraction .
should make those easier to use .
I am on VF and 3 in two different countries .
Taster
22-02-2005, 03:34 PM
6630 problems eh ?
http://www.3g.co.uk/3GForum/showthread.php?t=13685
Gunner
22-02-2005, 03:36 PM
4. It is only February 2005 ---- 10 months to go
Incase you hadn't noticed, 3GSM was in February. They're not going to move it to the end of the year just to keep you happy! 3GSM obviously haven't felt there has been a need to award something for best 3G handset until now.
Best is relative, yes. It relates to all the other 3G phones available at the time, like ALL those NEC's you listed before, and confirms that the industry regards the V800 as the very best.
If they'd done a 2004 award, who do you think would have won? LG I'd imagine, or Motorola, with one of their handsets. :)
Taster
22-02-2005, 03:41 PM
quite possibly.
Nontheless calling it the 2005 award is plain stupid in February
Gunner
22-02-2005, 04:04 PM
Yeah... but then selling things like Now 2005 and The Annual (MoS) 2005 at the end of 2004 is plain stupid too. Way of the world unfortunately!
Taster
22-02-2005, 04:32 PM
I still think that there is a bad smell of this .
Other maufacturers should rightly feel that this is very convenient for VF and SE
Lines like the one below are just plain rubbish .
"The Sony Ericsson V800 was called the first true convergence handset in the world when announced in 2004."
Lets face the fact that SE have been late to market with their 3G terminal offering
The networks have improved in the interim while other OEMs and terminal manufacturers bore the burden of the development .
Kilted1uK
04-03-2005, 12:21 AM
Fokia (not a spelling mistake) have lost the plot with the 6630 3G is all about mobile video so which dumb idiot decided lets have a stand to make vid calls etc where is the mobility in that unless u carry a big power pack with you to use it anywhere
Gunner
04-03-2005, 07:32 AM
3G isn't just about mobile video. It's also about mobile high speed data. The 6630 was designed for the latter.
Taster
04-03-2005, 09:50 AM
NOKIA ignored the competition and VIdeo calling and are now fallen behind.
Rubbish! They are still the top handset maker on the planet! GSM still and will account for the vast majority of handset sales for a long time and Nokia appear to be concentrating on that market as it is the one that can deliver the most volume. The 6680 addresses the videocalling issue but as it's never going to be a killer application the size, battery-life and weight of 3G handsets have been Nokia's priorities to date. The fact that ALL the networks offer Nokia handsets proves that they have made products that all operators value as customer offerings.
Kilted1uK
04-03-2005, 10:56 AM
Actually Fokia are strong But they are Struggling SonnyE are really challinging them
http://www.avantglance.com/index.php?p=39 SonnyE are ahead of them thsis was in the FTimes
Nokia's priorities so far has been to try n move in to the fashion market red blue slivir etc too bling if they had paid attention they could of got the 6630 right 1st time round I used to love Fokia i was considering buying 1 this time but after getting the V800 in my eyes Nokia had nothing good enough to challenge it SonnyE Rule best phone i've ever had n best network i've been on
Taster
04-03-2005, 11:26 AM
6680 still in marketing .
Nokia are behind in 3G fones .
FACT
There are smaller 3G fones than the nokias , zte have the smallest
I hope they deliver and fast.
Also looking forward to the k600 from s/e .... still in marketing too.
I wonder what 3 have got in the pipeline ?
Actually Fokia are strong But they are Struggling SonnyE are really challinging them
http://www.avantglance.com/index.php?p=39 SonnyE are ahead of them thsis was in the FTimes
Thats bit of joke conisdering they are no.6 interms of mobile phone sales. After companies like Siemens and LG
The Nokia 3g phones are superb so far. Series 60 is such a pleasure to have! :)
Taster
07-03-2005, 11:04 AM
Thats bit of joke conisdering they are no.6 interms of mobile phone sales. After companies like Siemens and LG
The Nokia 3g phones are superb so far. Series 60 is such a pleasure to have! :)
superb at what ?
live video ? NOT
99901
07-03-2005, 11:31 AM
this is getting very boring now
Taster
08-03-2005, 02:17 PM
still only March : Cebit is on .
Take a look at samsungs new phones and tell m,e that Nokia are the market leader again ?