Z1010 and Download Speed with iPAQ

[Dave G]

Hi Group
got my z1010 set up with an iPAQ 4150 and surfing on it via bluetooth. Now the 3G icon is on the phones screen so I assume i'm in a 3G coverage and should get amazing download speed? The best I have got is 42kbit/s which is what I got previousy on GPRS, am I missing something or is that the best I should expect?

thanks
Dave

[Rankrotten]

What is your port speed set to in the iPaq?

[Dave G]

cheers for the fast reply, its set at 57600 - which is actually what it was meant to be set at for GPRS, should it be different?

D

[Gunner]

Yes. GPRS over 3G is more like 372736 ;)

[gajet]

57600 is the correct port speed for a bluetooth modem.
Out of interest can you tell us what you are downloading from where and we could compare our speeds?
lol you will also have to tell me how you measure your speed.

[Dave G]

i was testing the www.bbc.co.uk/news website and using SPB GPRS Monitor and IP Dashboard monitor to look at the speeds
What should I crank up the baud rate in the connections settings to? Does it matter if I just set it on the fastest?

[Gunner]

I'd just stick it on the fastest.

Try http://www.adslguide.org.uk/tools/speedtest.asp for a speed reading.

[ColinR]

My Z1010 connects to my laptop's IR port at 113K...does your iPaq have IR? (not as convenient, I know, but something to test). I can't vouch for download speed, as I don't have 3G coverage at home, but it seems about as fast as a 56k modem (which ties in with around 42k).

[Dave G]

slapped it on the max at 115200, still not getting speeds above 50kbps. I think that must be about it for an iPAQ unless anyone can tell me differently?
Is 3G dependant on the signal strength? I'm assuming that because the icon is on the phone screen I have a decent signal, if I had a barely decent 3G signal would that account for slower speeds?

[Dave G]

any idea if it would be faster over IR anyone? I might have to try it on my laptop and see but I dont have a speed monitor on that

[Gunner]

It shouldn't be - IR is slower than Bluetooth - but you can give it a go by all means.

I'm pretty certain that on my laptop over Bluetooth I got 200-300kbps on ADSLGuide's Speedtest... my post should be knocking around somewhere. I'll have to give it another go some time. I usually just use it on my PDA but afaik there's no reliable way to detect the speed on there.

[gajet]

Using SPB GPRS Monitor the best speed I recorded was 97Kbit/sec, but that varied massively between different websites. IP Dashboard gave me too much of a headache.

The ADSLGuide as far as I can see won't work with an IPAQ.

[a_richardson99]

I never managed to get adslguide to return a speed reading with either an ipaq or a pocket loox 720.

I ended up taking my 6630 back as while I could get good (slightly above dial up) speeds with 6630->BT->Laptop I was getting poor speeds with 6630->BT->pocket pc (it max'd at about 9KBps but overall was no better than 2G).

2 seconds to load news.bbc.co.uk on the laptop (ignoring the latency of the orange servers) compared to 30/40 seconds on the pocket pc.

I know the pocket pc can handle fast networks as the loox 720 has wifi which works very well - so I guess it must be something to do with the BT stack on pocket pc's I reckon. I have heard of some people getting very fast speeds with a 3G phone to a pocket pc but never been able to track them down for more details.

[Gunner]

I'm now getting very very fast speeds on my Pocket PC (via Z1010, BT) since changing the modem string to include an extra z before the + at the start (reset) and the dial string to *99***3# - the latency between pageloads has all but vanished to the extent that it's now as fast as on Wi-Fi. There's still a small delay of a second or two, but that's just my iPAQ.

[Dave G]

absolutely, please can you confirm what your dial string is then, mine is simply a "z" without the quotes, i removed the dial string entirely and dial into *99***5# but i think i'll change it to *99***3# after reading some other posts

[Tom_Foolery]

absolutely, please can you confirm what your dial string is then, mine is simply a "z" without the quotes, i removed the dial string entirely and dial into *99***5# but i think i'll change it to *99***3# after reading some other posts

The *5# part of the dial up number is the connection ID on the handset though... so if you have nothing saved in profile 5 it won't connect. You need to ensure that you have profile 5 set up correct (ip, apn, user name & password etc)

[Gunner]

Didn't know that about the last number relating to a profile... So long as you've received all your settings from Orange I'd imagine it'd be the same as mine.

My settings for Pocket PC (over Z1010 BT), as posted here: http://www.3g.co.uk/3GForum/showthread.php?t=13899

Change the number dialled from *99# to *99***3#

Change the modem string to add an extra z, so:
z+cgdcont=1,"IP","orangeinternet"

[Dave G]

yeah I got what the 5 and the 3 are, and the settings are the same in the phone but for some reason it seems to connect faster using the 3, I dont think the dial string is needed at all, on my iPAQ 4150 it works with just a z in the dial string box as long as the number being dialed is *99***3# or *99***5# . I was just wondering if you had a different string altogher to get the super fast speeds.

[Tom_Foolery]

yeah I got what the 5 and the 3 are, and the settings are the same in the phone but for some reason it seems to connect faster using the 3, I dont think the dial string is needed at all, on my iPAQ 4150 it works with just a z in the dial string box as long as the number being dialed is *99***3# or *99***5# . I was just wondering if you had a different string altogher to get the super fast speeds.

Well why don't you both post your settings on here?
Really all you should be looking at is the IP and the APN.
If you are both using the same gateway ip address then I'm stuck as I would imagine the apn would be the same for everyone on orange.

[Dave G]

Modem: Bluetooth Dialup Modem
Number: *99***3#
Username: user
Password: pass

(under ******** settings)

Baud rate: 115200
Wait for dialtone before dialing: unchecked
Wait for credit card: 0 seconds
extra dial-string modem commands: z
Cancel if not connected: 120 secs

(under prefs)

Data bits: 8 parity: none Stop bits:1 Flow: Hardware
All terminal options unchecked

(under tcp/ip)

use server assigned ip address: checked
use specific ip address: unchecked (obviously, interchanges with above)
use slip: unchecked
software and header compression: both checked

(under servers)

use server assigned adresses: checked



On the phone when I connect using *99***5# its going to:
PS Account: 5
External ID: 5
APN: orangeinternet
with everything else essentially off

and with *99***5# its going to:
Orangeinternet
External ID: 3
APN: orangeinternet

everything else is the same so i guess it should be the same speed

D

[Gunner]

"extra dial-string modem commands: z"

That should definitely be z+cgdcont=1,"IP","orangeinternet"

It's one of the first things 156 will tell you to do.

They also recommend a specific username and password, I think it was username a, password orangemultimedia... but it's been a while! I thought the password was just multimedia, but there are too many stars. Might be worth calling Orange 156 to ask.

I know it's all alchemy but it helps to have it all the same.

The rest of your settings are fine.

[martin4058]

You don't need a password for APN orangeinternet or APN orangewap.

Username=Orange, Password=Multimedia was for the WAP dial-up connection.

[Gunner]

Hi,

Yeah, I know it will work without, but I was specifically instructed to use username 'a' with a password they gave me by 156. In this case it helps to have everything exactly the same or we'll never find out what's going on.